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  • #11349
    Kevin
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    Yes, I am also interested. Are you in fact manufacturing and marketing these?

    #11348
    Kevin
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    And here is where melodica taste becomes so subjective.
    To my ears the Suzuki sound just like an accordion.
    The Yamahas are a little more harmonica sounding.

    I don’t mean to spite Johan’s post.
    I’m pointing out that we hear melodica qualities differently.

    I think part of that is because there hasn’t been a definitive melodica recording by a definitive melodica star. What drives a great deal of instrument sales are players wanting to sound like a certain artist on a certain record. “What guitar does Eric Clapton play in the Cream years?”. “What sort of electric piano is Ray Charles playing on What’d I Say? I want to sound just like that.” and so on.

    I suppose the closest thing we have are the many recording made with vintage Hohners.
    Unfortunately no one manufactures melodicas that sound like that now, including Hohner.

    Max, I’m afraid it may just be trial and error where you have to try a few to find a sound you want.

    #11241
    Kevin
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    Thanks for posting this Antonio. It’s very thorough and thought out. I’ve had a TEC controller and Korg Microkey for some time.
    Your discussion of the pressure gradient were interesting. I could never find the right setting that felt as natural as playing the melodica. I haven’t fooled with it in a long time.
    I was mostly interested in playing synth sounds and found it a little more effective to use the breath control to open and close the filter instead of the volume.

    I’m curious if you had looked into the EWI wind controllers and similar from Yamaha and now I think Roland?
    I was curious if I could use breath on one of those but still control the notes from a traditional keyboard?

    #11195
    Kevin
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    Very interesting Clep. I’ve had pretty good luck with the surgical tubing. The drawbacks I’ve found is if it gets bent at an extreme angle it will sometimes kink up and block airflow also any accidental pressure on it will block airflow.

    #11176
    Kevin
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    I think of 37 keys as a resource that can be used.
    My car has a speedometer that reads over 100. I may never drive it that fast and I might not handle it very well going that speed. Point of fact I hover around the speed limit.
    However I would feel limited if there were a governor on my cars engine that kept me from going over 50mph if a situation arose where I needed it.
    Average vocal range is around two octaves likewise I believe the recorder. If you are playing vocal-like melodies the 25 key range is acceptable.
    There are some common melodies where at least 32 would be needed.
    Any two-handed style of playing benefits from the extended range.
    A fuller range lends itself to styles of playing where you might accompany other instruments in the lower register then take your solo in the higher notes.

    #11175
    Kevin
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    The black tubes do have a slightly(SLIGHTLY) better appearance. I wish they were more readily available.
    A real problem I have with after-market tubes is hygiene.
    Most of the replacement tubes I have bought seem to have deeper corrugation to them. They quickly seem to develop odor and I see little gray things growing down in the grooves.
    Meanwhile I looked at my vintage Hohner tube from the late 80’s it smells fine and doesn’t seem to have any growth.
    Likwise the tube that comes with the Yamaha.

    P’al, I’m not sure I’m envisioning your brass tube the way you are describing it? There is the metal gooseneck tube for the vibrandoneon and the metal crank handle for the Andes 25 which will fit any other Suzuki.

    #11156
    Kevin
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    Hi Clep,
    I’ve had some good luck with the tubing used for resistance exercise. It’s stretchy enough to fit over various fittings and mouthpieces but it has very thick walls so it doesn’t kink up so easy in a bend.
    I salvaged one from an old unit but it looks like you can order it by itself without handles.

    #11096
    Kevin
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    #11095
    Kevin
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    I want to know the true purpose of these rubber bladders which only seem to be found in some models of Suzukis and no where else in the melodica world.

    Lowboy you may want to read my post on the Suzuki B24 Bass Melodion – Gapping thread. Wherein I try to bypass the bladder with unexpected results?
    Which has made me more curious.

    #11025
    Kevin
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    David,
    More than the sound I’d be very interested to see the construction of your Janko conversion. I’ve considered that myself in the past.

    #11018
    Kevin
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    I’m going to resurrect this over a year old thread since this is where the Suzuki bladder was being discussed.
    I indeed took a piece of thick duct tape and placed it over the pencil sized hole on the inside of the reed cover of my Suzuki M-37C.
    That way air-flow bypassed the bladder but also kept it intact.
    I put it away shortly after that(just don’t enjoy the sound). After some time I recently got it out and played it.
    I noticed the low D next to middle C had a sour bleating quality.
    That put me to wondering about my duct tape job. I removed the tape re-assembled and immediately the low D note was back to normal!
    I found that just taking my finger and pressing in on the bladder from the outside as I played caused the D to sour.
    It’s interesting the D isn’t the note directly below the hole. I sure can’t explain the physics of what is going on.
    I would greatly appreciate someone else removing the shell of their Suzuki and pressing in on the bladder and finding out if they get the same effect.

    #10768
    Kevin
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    Hi Paul,
    Not what you want to hear but just jump in and try it.
    The Yamaha is pretty robust so it can take a lot of tuning.
    One thing I do is use fine sandpaper or even an emery board instead of a metal file.
    They are much more gentle.
    The other suggestion is buy the cheapest melodica you can find and practice on it till you feel confident.
    Looks like the cheapest on Amazon right now is 13 or 14 dollars if you have prime. That’s far cheaper than anybody would charge to work on your Yamaha.

    If you are set on paying a pro try searching for accordion repair instead of a music store. You are more likely to find someone to try it or has the contact for the person that will.
    Sorry I can’t recommend anyone personally. There is a place out of Pennsylvania that says they will repair tune melodicas. I have had no contact with them just seen there videos and looking at their website.

    #10743
    Kevin
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    Welcome to the forum Martin.
    What a great informative first post.
    I’m a Augustus Pablo fan from way back.
    As you wrote because of the many overlapping collections I wasn’t aware of his stylistic periods but I could sure tell there were some tracks I liked the sound of a lot better than others.
    Thanks to you I now know why and what to look for. 🙂

    There is something magical about those early Hohners that even non-musicians respond to.
    I don’t know if it’s the metal body the larger mouthpiece or something else.
    I hope Hohner is reading these forums and get a clue that they should bring these models back and maybe add a 32 and 36 note version in the same design.

    #10728
    Kevin
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    Hi Tiffany,
    I think Alan is right. I can see in the photo the non-working reed is much higher than any of the other reeds. You can tell by the way the cast shadow is longer and fuller. Too much of a gap and it lets air pass through the hole.
    Another thing to check is if there is anything in the melodica that’s blocking the air-flow. It’s a fairly old model so there has been plenty of years for something to get in there. Insects,spiders,pennies cheese-puffs the list is endless.
    When you press just that key do you hear air-flowing or does it feel like you are blowing into something solid (stopped-up)?

    #10524
    Kevin
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    I feel like it there is almost a friction between the keys when I play …. the keyboard is relatively noisy. As you know, the feel, the touch on the keyboard is quite important for the development of the musical game and I am disappointed.

    Hi Frederic, I have the same experience. If you play the Suzuki for a bit the Yamaha keyboard(P37D) feels terrible. The keys feel like they stick or hang somewhere in the middle of their travel. They’re also noisy and my fingers feel a bit cramped on a Yamaha compared to the Suzuki. I’ve never actually measured the size of the keys. I have a new P37D and one I’ve played for several years they both feel the same key-wise.

    Unfortunately I like the air handling better on the Yamaha and it also has less of an accordion sound.

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